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STRANA 4 NOVOSTI Četvrtak 16 oktobra 1947 ELLA VVINTER INTERVIEVVS Tito Reveais By Kila VVinter (Yesterda Miss Winter began the textual report of the first intcrview given by Marshal Tito to an American reporter this year The intervievv was conducted in German vvithout interpreters at the Marehal's villa in Zagreb The questions and the ansvvers vvcre frank and without the usual diplo-mati- c evasions The conctuiion of the intervievv opena on a (juestion by mee Winter) Since there ia so much miaun-derstandi- ng regarding your oppo-- sltion I vvonder if you'd explain to me vhat the opposition heilu conaiats of In America our big parties differ politely— or maybe impolitely— but at any rate over the dinner table or on redio or at the polis Why do you take such atrong measures against your op-position ? This is one of the things that shocks American opinion A Our oppoaitionists are ene-mies of the state enemies of the new Yugoslavia They have stop-pe-d at no measures to overthrow our country including espionagc sabotage and murder to enforcs their opposition Those vvho are vrilling to live in peace like Grol Shubasich and others vve do not proceed against but those vvho continue acting to overthrow the government —especially with for-cig- n support —we take energetic measures to stop Don't you do the same with the enemies of youi country? Take the cxample now of Slovenia this last trial at Ljubljana in vhirh Nagoda and Furlan are shovvn up This oppo-sition doesn't just disagree over n dinner table it use espionnge and economic terrorism as it vreapons They give away military seerets And anvono who spreads lles about our state vve consldcr enemies too Such lles have done us groat damages ospecially vith foreign countries Q HOW DO VOU ACCOUNT for the fact that forelgn coun-tries and cspecially their official government do get aceording to j-o-u such a false pkture of this arantry? ' A Hl givo you an cxamp!e as j an answer The Manchester Guar-dian rccently published a long editorial—or vvas it an article I have forgotten vvhich — saying that the Chetniks vere fighting in Bos-ni- a and Herzegovina vvere form-in- g a new army of 20000 men vvhich vvas blowing up bridges tralns and factories Novv you've seen personallj vvhat goes on here you've seen that no such thing ia occurring There are Just a few hundred men vvho have not yet been unmasked the rest have fled We consider an article like that to have been vvritten vvith the intent of making trouble it constitutes a method of encourag-in- g the very tcrroristic acts it describes Or it may be that the paper's correspondent vvas deliber-atel- y misinformed by enemies Q What vvould happen Mar-shal Tito if such terroristic bandi wero formed? A They vvould be vdped out Q Why ara forelgn pswers or aa you call them "certain foreign p9we" hoatile to Vugoslavia? A If a small atate like oura doea vhat we have done it seta an ex-amp- le for other states that are not yet indepenlent as for example ome colonial countriee Vfe are a nw economic democracy vhkh has already had great success i Tito'a voiee took fire and I strength but at this moment hkt great German hepherd dog Tiger famo ali over Europe sauntered teto the room making affectionate dog noises He queezed between U atxl against the Marshal's knee aaking for attention "Mir!" or-der- ed his master: "Quiet!" but the dog grumbled like a baby I patted him he turned his long head hopefully to me and licked y faec The Marehal laughed Tiger was appeased and lay down lietly at Tito's feet The dg oee belonged to a German Army offieer taken prisoner and was preaented to Tito in 1944 by Ger-er-al Košta Xadj he's about fix yeara oM beautifutly marked in black and brown almmt the site of a Great Dane A (ront) We are only a mali atate and we have a!redy achieved great succewns Our lad was terribly kstityed We have made such great ateps for-war- d in these few Tears we have rogrcaetd at a rate never učen before ia the wtrW under Mh cireamstanees It ia testlly mar-ve- l Ve dkl it through national "ilr THE MARSHAL Vugoslavia's Secref Weapon i unit and the unitv of our peo- - ple We hae used ali our ener- - gies to build up and bind up the vrounds of war This is also a sign that there is no var atmosphere A people that puts forth such efforts to reconitruet cansot bo thinking of war only of peace only of peace Q I HAVE NOTICED that ali your new buildings have such atrong vvalla such thkk founda-tion- s as if they were being built for eternity! Why is that? A Yes and vve build our fac-- tories out in the open as you hav seen vve are not hidlng them Does a country build factories thus out in the open if it expects war or courts war? Q Dut if an atomic bomb vvere to ba dropped on these factories? Tito interrupted with heartfelt laughter A We an not afraid of the atom bomb We can defend our-selv- es We have a secret Q WIIAT IS IT— May I ask? A It i our morale Factories arent everything One can achieve Herostratus destruetion (a Greek who destroycd a temple for the sheer šake of destruetion) witli the atom bomb but one cannot de-str- oy a people Q Then rou think war is im-possib- le now? A For the present yes You can't fight a vvar vvithout the peo-lJ- e bcing villlng and people at present are unvvilllng even in your country Don't forget that the Nazis vvere the strongeet military power the wor!d has cver knovvn and they vvere the aggressors They had much the strongest vvea-po- ns yct they vvere utterly de-strov- ed Evcry aggressor must lose — and aggressors we shall never bc Dut for our defense ve shall fight particularly if our country is attacked We vant nothing from anyone Ve have made such sacrifices vve knov vvhat var is Vugoslavia lost 300000 soldiers a"d 1500000 dvilians-ever- y tenth or eleventh man woman and ehild This is a much greater sacrifice in proportion than vas made by the United States Can you imagine that vvc want war onco more? Q OUH STATE DEl'AHT-JIEN'- T implies that you may have the illegal Greek underground ra-dio statlon here Is it true? A It is an invention Why should it be here? Any help from us to the Greeks vvould take quite different forms we have ?ym-path- y and support for their as-piratio- ns Q I would like to ask you some-thin- g about your industrialization lans If the $60000000 blocked Idollars of yours which the United States still holds vvere releastd how would you use them? A To buy machinery tractors and trucka in the United States Q You sald in your Tanjug in-tervi- ew of Aug 7 that America should leave you alone Doea not that amack of ieolationiam and would you approve of an isolation-is- t attitude on the part of the United States tovard you? A I meant don't make diffi-culti- ea for us don't stop our re-conatruet- ion We watt cconomic and trade relatkma with you but if you don't want them then leave us alone Q What about the Vugoelav miasion nov negotlatlng in Lon-don? A (Smilifig) lt's goisg through Weve better relatiene vdth Eng-lan- d Q Why is that? A England galns aad we gain Q How ia it in yor opinion that England and France vhich have great dollar Ioan are not reconstrueting as much or as fast as Vugoslavia who reeeived noth-ing from the United States? A THERE IS ANOTHEK SEC-IJE- T We ue everythtng the minute we get it We w"ork very wett we a#e every otmee of ma-teri- al evry nail—for the benefit ofalL Q Marahal Tito it is still a myatry to me how yoy have man-age- d yor rMonairoction It as-tonis- hea an American used to serapers and gradera btflldoters eranes tractors ateamrollers cement mineru to pee vrhat you have done almost without maehin-- 1 ery You have rebuilt more and more quickly than any European ' country that I have seen this summer—and I have travelled ali through Central Europe Hov did it happen? (In Yugoslavia bulld-ing- s bridges factories railroads seem to spring up almost ovei-nig- ht The buildings are of thick cement and double brick not jerry built or shoddy) A Our economic svstem is such that ve can make such progres In the Vest privato ovnership stopa auch progresa Here no one puts anything in hia private pocket Q If you dld get private loans and credJta eould that tend to stop your reconstruetion ? A (laughing) Of course not If we get cash or loans we would simply buy mora machines for the good of ali Q WILL YOU EXrLAIN to me in detail and concretely why you refused to participate in the Marshall Tlan? A You see that we were not wrong The Pariš Conference has como to no result vre said it could not The secret conference about the Iluhr now taking place in Eng-land is further proof that some-thin- g i wrong somewhere that somevvhere there's a lack of good-wi- ll that not evcry state can ex-pe- ct help—least of ali our country We have our Five Year Plan we havo built amazingly in these past two years ve can simply not per-m- it any obstruction I vill cite you an example: Aceording to the Mar-shall Plan every country must put its surplus into a common pot llut ve cannot do this: we already have agreements trade and economic agreements with many countries: Sveden Italy Uulgaria Hungarj Poland Komania and Czechoslova-ki- a We vouldn't be free to have these under the Marshall Plan We knev this so we deelin-e- d to go to Pariš Desides they did the who!e thlng without consulting us beforehand We vere Just told to come Ono doesn't do things like that Q I think Americans would be interested in knowing why it is so important for you a hitherto largelv agricultural countrj" to becomo industrialized? A It is very important We are a rich country Why should we export mlnerals for example? They belong to our country ve should use them for the benefit of our people We have many riches in our country: oil coal copper 2inc lead manganese We sould work these ourselves and benefit from them ourselves Why export cheap raw materials and buy back expensive finished pro-duet- s? Why should our peasants have to emigrate because thi country is poor —one and a half million have left home and spread over the entire vorld in order to make a better living than they could make here We have too little earth for our populatlon unless ve tili and vork it intensively Why should our peasants go away? Q I understand 500 immigrants have just arrived from Canada— Vugoslava coming back to their homeland? A Theee are "ecosomk immi-grant- a" (They are largely skilled labor and have brought a half mi-llion dollara' worth of toola with them) Q What about your polky re-garding D P's? A We vvant our people back of course Those vvho are not var criminals can vrork here peaceful-l- y Ve have amnestied ali ho veren't bloodstained criminals It is enemy propaganda to teli them that things are bad here and that they vvill be punished if they re-tu- rn This is not true And many have already returned and have seen that it vas untrue We need workers we have no unemploy-men- t here nor can ve ever bave any (Tito asked me why Amer-icans didn't come to work on the Vouth Railvay as practkally every other nationality had done) Q You have spoken much Marshal Tito of the lies you al-le- ge are told about you Do you think such alleged lies can con-tinue in the face of ali these things you have toM me wheh you feel refute them? A The lies can't continue long After awhile lies are denied by fact and we show the facts Vet some do remain and as I've said do damage Ve teli the facts and repeat them but sections of your prese are very powerful and are in the hands of people who vvant a&sstmmmmms&m Seljaci slavonskih sela dobrovoljno uključuju u obradu dijelove svojih pašnjaka Slavonska Orahovica — Na pod-ručju kotara Slavonska Orahovica koji ima CO sela i 23 MNO-- a pri-vode se kraju pripreme za pred-stojeću jesensku sjetvu Kotarska sjetvena komisija razradila je plan sjetve na mjesta dok Mjesni na-rodni odbori završavaju razrez na pojedine gospodare kojih ima 4C63 Pred vidjeno je da se u ovom kotaru zasije: pSenicom 41 posto raži i ječmom 5 posto parom zobi 11 posto krmnim stočnim biljem i industrijskim biljkama po 9 po-sto krumpirom i drugim povrćem 4 posto i s kukuruzom 21 posto obradivih površina Velečasni iz Nove Kapele osluškuje cvilenje Nova Kapela — Fino i ugladje- - no uho ima ovdašnji svećenik Josip GlavaJ Ne izbjegne njemu ni naj-manji Hum direktno bi čovjek re-kao da je muzički nadaren — pra-vi rtatfinvkn PrpvrA u na nri mier u krevetu i osluHcuJe Jutro je i narod ide s kolima na polje da t radi a točkovi nepodmazani — cvile "Sto bi to moglo biti — kakav je to cvileS?" pita se velečasni a onda nakon podugog razmišljanja zaključuje: "Nema ita — cvili narod" Ili prolazi kraj željezničke pru-ge Lokomotiva — rekao bi čovjek nova — a još Je nedavno ležala u starom gvoždju Izvukli je popra-vili — i sada vozi Ali kada stane — zastenje zaškripi "Kakav je to zvuk?' pomišlja velečasni "Ma i opet neki cvilež" I zaključuje: "Nema žta — cvili narod" I čuje on tako cvilenje sa svih strana — cvile strojevi u tvornica-ma cvile turbine u hidrocentrala-ma cvile vlakovi što već prolaze dovrSenlm dijelovima Omladinske pruge cvili vjetar kroz novograd-nje A Glavaš samo osluškuje pa primjećuje: "Nema šta — cvili narod" No jednog je dana čuo drug zvukove Nije cvilež — nego pjes-ma Omladinska priredba I to ga jo uzbunilo Eto već se tako pnu-či- o na cvilenje da se već i sam pretvorio u veliki cvilež a sada najednom pjesma I dugo je o to-me razmišljao zapeklo ga upravo ta odlučio zacviliti protiv toga j samoj propovijedi što je odlučio to je i učinio Iduće nedjelje kada se popeo na propovjedaonicu ucvi-ljenim glasom rekao je medju ostalim: "Sramota je to da omladina održava priredbe da se omladina veseli dok milijuni naroda — cvi-le" što ćemo — svatko sluša zvu-kove svojim uhom A veličasni Glavaš se toliko zacvilio da mu je već sve cvilež pa ucvilio i propo-vijed Samo što se malo rdjavo izrazio: ne cvile milijuni naroda ali je posve točno da ima takvih koji cvilo za milijunima koje više ne mogu otimati narodu these lies to be spread They print now a lie now a truth but some belicf clings to the lies and that damages ali—those vvho teli the lies as much as those who believe them But we have our democratk nation and vve'll vrin out Q Since there k so much talk of another var and since any spark can set it ablaze teli me once more uhat you think could be done to diasolve the hostile feelings between your country and mine? I ask agaln in your opin ion vhat could be done to have I better relations? A This does not depend on u but on the American governmen and on the American authorities We vvant to trade vvith America ve want good relations but vve consider vve should ran our ovvn countrj Our people vvant to run their own country vithout outside interference And do J'ou knovv hov vve čame to this desire? We reeeived many notes telling us that we must adhere to the Tito-Shubas- ic Agreement that vve must not form a nev Vugoslavia But vve vranted to found a new Vugoslavia we wanted to make our countrj modern and indus-trialized and able to support ali its people Q Then what are those author-ities that you say are unfriendly so afraid of ? A They are afraid that we wouW achieve exactly what e have now achieved They have nuite openly supperted our reac-tkma- rj elementa in order to pre-ve- nt us building our nw countrj But we are building it nevithe-les- s and w shall vrin We shall have a united and democratic peo-ple and we shall vvin Pitanju povećanja (Tanka na ra-čun pašnjaka posvećuje se puna pažnja Narod je primio ovu odlu-ku s odobravanjem Mještani sela Dolci Feričanci i Suha Mlaka još na proljeće ne čekajući direktive od kotara uzorali su od svojih pa-šnjaka 300 jutara gdje su proljet-ni usjevi izvanredno uspjeli Ove jeseni preorat će se jo5 500 jutara (pašnjaka To ne znači da su sela ostala bez pašnjaka Svako mjesto dobilo je potrebne površine za na-pasan- je stoke Medjutim znatno su povećane površine za proizvod-nju ansilirane stočne hrane koja je izvrsna za prehranu stoke preko zime Kotar Slavonska Orahovica ras-polaže sa 1G0 volovskih i konjskih sprega Pomanjkanje sprega osje-ća se samo u selima Gornjoj Piš-ta- ni i Suhoj Mlaki kojima će po-moći u oranju sela Crnac i Donja Pištana Osim toga stanica SPOM iz Našica ugovorila Je za jesensku sjetvu C00 jutara ali će se kontra-hiranj- e povećati na 1000 jutara Za potrebe gospodara osigurano Ne kod Pouzeća "Oranica" u Osi Jeku 30 vagona pšeničnog sjemena i tri vagona raži Polovica naru čene sjemenske robe već je na pu-tu Roba će se odmah po prispjeću razdijeliti gospodarima Najbolju evidenciju obradiva ze-mljišta proveli 6U MNO-- i u Do-kš- ić Lugu Darama Kutovima i Milanovcu gdje se plodno zemlji-šte slaže s katastarskim podacima U toku kampanja za pronalaženje utajena zemljišta Mještani sela Bankovaca otkrili su ovih dana 120 jutara zemljišta koje su utajili neki imućni seljaci U Slavonskoj Orahovici nedostaje preko 300 ju-tara a nije bolje ni u drugim seli-ma Nove propise prema kojima će proizvodjači moći predavati žit-nom fondu umjesto pšenice i druge žitarice raž i ječam proizvodjači su primili sa zadovoljstvom Raž u ovom kotaru osobito dobro uspije-va VATIKANSKI BUSINESS (Prenos sa strane 2) Gallarate na primjer ima devet tekstilnih industrija od tih su dvi-je u rukama "crnog plemstva" (Olcesse i Rivetti) a ostalih sedam vode nećaci pape ili nekog kardi nala Kad se sve to znade tada nije čudo da Vatikan putem milijun-skih zajmova prodire i u automo-bilsku industriju "Fiat" To je sa-mo jedan novi "sitni" business u velikom trgovačkim apetitima Vatikana Vatikan sve viJe uz pomoć De Gasperijeve vlade osvaja tržišta i grabi dividende On sve više drži u rukama ključne pozicije i uz buran pljesak onih preko Oceana čuva današnji režim koji za njega kon-kretno znači: banke industrije eksploatacije dividende bogatstva MALENI IM OCEANI Rim u rujnu Pošto su Atlantski i Tihi ocean koji okružuju SAD odviše malene vode za američku flotu to prema izjavi komandanta američkih sna-ga u Sredszemlju jedan dio ameri-čke flote kani i dalje ostati u tali-janskim vodama čak i poslije pot-pisivanja mirovnog ugovora s Nje-mačkom Ova izjava nije naročito iznena-dila g de Gasperija jer je on ovu za nj ugodnu vijest još odavna saznao iz prve ruke — u Washing-ton- u (Iz Kercmpuha) Svi nam dobro ~i OBJAV TORONTO ONT Ogranak Saveza Kanadskih Hr vata održavati će svoju redovitu sjednicu u nedjelju 19 oktobra u 2 sata poslije podne na 3SG Ontario St Moli se sve članove i članice da dodju na ovu sjednicu i da dovedu svoje prijatelje da ih začlanimo u naš Savez Naročito je potrebno da prisustvuju članovi odbora zu kampanju novog članstva i Novo-sti i da podnesu rezultate rada SJEDNICA IZVRŠNOG ODBORA U petak na večer u 8 sati odr-žavati će se sjednica Izvršnog od-bora u gore navedenim prostorija-ma Stoga je potrebno da članovi Izvršnog odbora našeg Saveza pri-sustvuju ovoj sjednici i da napra-vimo plan i sugestije za sjednicu u nedjelju Toronto Ont U subotu 18 listopada lokalno Vijeće K J S priredjuje oprosnu večer povratnicima treće grupe Zabava će se održavati na 36G On-tario St Početak u 8 sati na večer Potrebno je da se svi Jugoslave-ni odazovu ovoj priredbi i da se zajednički oprostimo sa našim dru-govima i drugaricama povratnici-ma treće grupe iz Toronta Mole se svi drugovi i drugarice koji imaju tikete na rasprodaji da ih donesu te večeri u dvoranu Toronto Ont Sve tri grupe "Tito" Kluba Rad-ničke progresivne partije održava-ju svoju zajedničku sjednicu u uto-rak 21 oktobra u 8 sati u večer Pošto imamo vrlo važnih pitanja za rješavati potrebno je da sve članstvo bude prisutno Kirkland Lake Ont Daje se do znanja našem naselju a roditeljima čija su djeca prije polazila školu hrvatskog je-zika da je jesenska obuka otpočela 10 oktobra u saveznim prostori-jama 40 Label Ave Apeliramo na roditelje da svoju djecu upišu i redovito šalju u školu tako da se nauče čitati pisati i dobro govo-riti svoj materinski jezik Za odbor škole J Tomac Kirkland Lake Ont Lokalno Vijeće Kanadskih Juž-nih Slavena priredjuje 19 oktobra u saveznim prostorijama 40 Label Ave oprostnu večer drugovima ko-ji polaze sa trećom grupom u do-movinu (U objavi nije navedeno u koje doba dana počinje priredba ured) Pozivaju se svi članovi kao i ostala braća Jugoslaveni da uve-ličaju ovu oprosnu priredbu TRAŽI SE Jure Kranjčević koji se nalazi oko deset godina na poslu u maj-nam- a u sjeverni Ontario i Quebec da se javi upravi Novosti radi pisma koje se za istoga nalazi kod na Pismo piše Kate Kranjčević po-s- ta Ličko Leće Lika F N R Jugoslavija Dodjite na vrijemel SVEČANA OPROSTNA VEČER U MONTREALU Vijeće Kanadskih Južnih Slavena priredjuje SVEČANU OPROSTNU VEČER U nedelju 26 oktobra Povratnicima treće grupe i posadi ladje "Radnik" Početak banketa u 7 sati na večer Ulaznica dva dolara po osobi Prcdprodaja u Montrealu Carpentier dvorana na 3560 St Lawrence Blvd Ovaj svečani sastanak osloviti će predstavnici F N R Jugoslavije predstavnici posade "Radnika" i predstavnici Vijeća došli! osobito " m ' i ib ii VVindsor Oni Klub "Tito" RPP održava svo-ju redovitu sjednicu u nedjelju 19 oktobra u 2 sata poslije podne u ruskoj dvorani 1220 Drouillard Ud Poziva se sve članstvo na sjednicu Windsor Ont A get-togeth- er of Canađlan-Vugosla- v youth of Windsor is be-ing held on Monday October 20th in the Czechoslovak Hali at 8 PM Emeric Simac Secretary of the Canadian South-Slavi- c Youth Fe-derati- on vvill be present as guest speaker We urge ali our youth to attend this important affair Mike Adams Toronto West Ogranak Saveza Kanadskih Hr-vata i odsjek 9C1 IICZ priredjuju oprosnu večer drugovima i druga-ricama svojim članovima koji sa trećom grupom odlaze u domo-vinu Priredba će biti 19 oktobra u 2 sata poslije podne u kući druga M Markušića na 134 Vine St Toronto Ont U ponedjeljak 20 listopada u 8 sati na večer lokalno Vijećo K J Slavena održati će icdovitu sjed-nici na kojoj treba da prlsustvujo cjelokupno članttvo radi novih oba-vjes- ti i budućeg rada St Catharincs Ont Odsjek 931 HDZ održavati ćo svoju redovitu sjednicu u nedjelju dne 19 oktobra na 247 St Paul St soba broj 18 Sjednica je vrlo važ-na pa je potrebno da sve članstvo prisustvuje Montreal One Od jek 739 IIBZ poziva svo svo-je članove na redovitu sjednicu koja se održava 19 oktobra a Ju-goslavenskom domu 3447 St Lau-re- nt St Početak u 2 sata poslije podne Pored naših odsječnih poslova saslušat ćemo izvještaj sa Sedme konvencije i učinit pripremo Kl naš budući rad Montreal Que Ogranci svih bratskih Saveza priredjuju čajanku oprosnu prired-bu drugovima i drugaricama koji odlaze u domovinu sa trećom gru-pom u subotu na večer 18 oktobra u Jugoslavenskom domu 3447 St Lavvrettc čisti prihod ide u fond svih triju naših novina Za dobru podvorbu i ostalo bri-ne se odbor Niagara Falte Ont Ogranak Saveza Kanadskih Hr-vata priredjuje kućnu zabavu u su-botu 19 oktobra u kući obitelji M Polica 1637 McLeod Ud Početak u 7 sati na večer Glavni govornik će biti drag I Pribanić glavni tajnik Savesn KJI čisti prihod od zabave ide u fond Novosti pa zato očekajerao da će nas posjetiti svi Jugoslaveni u mjestu i okolici New Toronto Ont Ogranak Saveza Kanadskih Hr-vata održava svoju redovitu sjedni-cu u subotu 18 oktobra u 8 sati na večer na 174-6t- h St Poito imamo raspravljati pita-nje iduće kampanje umoljavaju se svi članovi da budu prisutni S S Mario Oni Sjednica odsjeka 628 HBZ odr-žavati će se u nedjelju 19 oktsfera u 130 poslije podne na 342 Wel-lingt- on St W Na sjednici će se dati tromjesečno izvješće poslova-nja odsjeka a k tome se delegat Sedme konvencije dati svoje itve-sc- e pa je potrebno da sve članstvo bude prisutno JESTE LI OBNOVILI PRETPLATU ?
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Title | Novosti, October 16, 1947 |
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OCR text | STRANA 4 NOVOSTI Četvrtak 16 oktobra 1947 ELLA VVINTER INTERVIEVVS Tito Reveais By Kila VVinter (Yesterda Miss Winter began the textual report of the first intcrview given by Marshal Tito to an American reporter this year The intervievv was conducted in German vvithout interpreters at the Marehal's villa in Zagreb The questions and the ansvvers vvcre frank and without the usual diplo-mati- c evasions The conctuiion of the intervievv opena on a (juestion by mee Winter) Since there ia so much miaun-derstandi- ng regarding your oppo-- sltion I vvonder if you'd explain to me vhat the opposition heilu conaiats of In America our big parties differ politely— or maybe impolitely— but at any rate over the dinner table or on redio or at the polis Why do you take such atrong measures against your op-position ? This is one of the things that shocks American opinion A Our oppoaitionists are ene-mies of the state enemies of the new Yugoslavia They have stop-pe-d at no measures to overthrow our country including espionagc sabotage and murder to enforcs their opposition Those vvho are vrilling to live in peace like Grol Shubasich and others vve do not proceed against but those vvho continue acting to overthrow the government —especially with for-cig- n support —we take energetic measures to stop Don't you do the same with the enemies of youi country? Take the cxample now of Slovenia this last trial at Ljubljana in vhirh Nagoda and Furlan are shovvn up This oppo-sition doesn't just disagree over n dinner table it use espionnge and economic terrorism as it vreapons They give away military seerets And anvono who spreads lles about our state vve consldcr enemies too Such lles have done us groat damages ospecially vith foreign countries Q HOW DO VOU ACCOUNT for the fact that forelgn coun-tries and cspecially their official government do get aceording to j-o-u such a false pkture of this arantry? ' A Hl givo you an cxamp!e as j an answer The Manchester Guar-dian rccently published a long editorial—or vvas it an article I have forgotten vvhich — saying that the Chetniks vere fighting in Bos-ni- a and Herzegovina vvere form-in- g a new army of 20000 men vvhich vvas blowing up bridges tralns and factories Novv you've seen personallj vvhat goes on here you've seen that no such thing ia occurring There are Just a few hundred men vvho have not yet been unmasked the rest have fled We consider an article like that to have been vvritten vvith the intent of making trouble it constitutes a method of encourag-in- g the very tcrroristic acts it describes Or it may be that the paper's correspondent vvas deliber-atel- y misinformed by enemies Q What vvould happen Mar-shal Tito if such terroristic bandi wero formed? A They vvould be vdped out Q Why ara forelgn pswers or aa you call them "certain foreign p9we" hoatile to Vugoslavia? A If a small atate like oura doea vhat we have done it seta an ex-amp- le for other states that are not yet indepenlent as for example ome colonial countriee Vfe are a nw economic democracy vhkh has already had great success i Tito'a voiee took fire and I strength but at this moment hkt great German hepherd dog Tiger famo ali over Europe sauntered teto the room making affectionate dog noises He queezed between U atxl against the Marshal's knee aaking for attention "Mir!" or-der- ed his master: "Quiet!" but the dog grumbled like a baby I patted him he turned his long head hopefully to me and licked y faec The Marehal laughed Tiger was appeased and lay down lietly at Tito's feet The dg oee belonged to a German Army offieer taken prisoner and was preaented to Tito in 1944 by Ger-er-al Košta Xadj he's about fix yeara oM beautifutly marked in black and brown almmt the site of a Great Dane A (ront) We are only a mali atate and we have a!redy achieved great succewns Our lad was terribly kstityed We have made such great ateps for-war- d in these few Tears we have rogrcaetd at a rate never učen before ia the wtrW under Mh cireamstanees It ia testlly mar-ve- l Ve dkl it through national "ilr THE MARSHAL Vugoslavia's Secref Weapon i unit and the unitv of our peo- - ple We hae used ali our ener- - gies to build up and bind up the vrounds of war This is also a sign that there is no var atmosphere A people that puts forth such efforts to reconitruet cansot bo thinking of war only of peace only of peace Q I HAVE NOTICED that ali your new buildings have such atrong vvalla such thkk founda-tion- s as if they were being built for eternity! Why is that? A Yes and vve build our fac-- tories out in the open as you hav seen vve are not hidlng them Does a country build factories thus out in the open if it expects war or courts war? Q Dut if an atomic bomb vvere to ba dropped on these factories? Tito interrupted with heartfelt laughter A We an not afraid of the atom bomb We can defend our-selv- es We have a secret Q WIIAT IS IT— May I ask? A It i our morale Factories arent everything One can achieve Herostratus destruetion (a Greek who destroycd a temple for the sheer šake of destruetion) witli the atom bomb but one cannot de-str- oy a people Q Then rou think war is im-possib- le now? A For the present yes You can't fight a vvar vvithout the peo-lJ- e bcing villlng and people at present are unvvilllng even in your country Don't forget that the Nazis vvere the strongeet military power the wor!d has cver knovvn and they vvere the aggressors They had much the strongest vvea-po- ns yct they vvere utterly de-strov- ed Evcry aggressor must lose — and aggressors we shall never bc Dut for our defense ve shall fight particularly if our country is attacked We vant nothing from anyone Ve have made such sacrifices vve knov vvhat var is Vugoslavia lost 300000 soldiers a"d 1500000 dvilians-ever- y tenth or eleventh man woman and ehild This is a much greater sacrifice in proportion than vas made by the United States Can you imagine that vvc want war onco more? Q OUH STATE DEl'AHT-JIEN'- T implies that you may have the illegal Greek underground ra-dio statlon here Is it true? A It is an invention Why should it be here? Any help from us to the Greeks vvould take quite different forms we have ?ym-path- y and support for their as-piratio- ns Q I would like to ask you some-thin- g about your industrialization lans If the $60000000 blocked Idollars of yours which the United States still holds vvere releastd how would you use them? A To buy machinery tractors and trucka in the United States Q You sald in your Tanjug in-tervi- ew of Aug 7 that America should leave you alone Doea not that amack of ieolationiam and would you approve of an isolation-is- t attitude on the part of the United States tovard you? A I meant don't make diffi-culti- ea for us don't stop our re-conatruet- ion We watt cconomic and trade relatkma with you but if you don't want them then leave us alone Q What about the Vugoelav miasion nov negotlatlng in Lon-don? A (Smilifig) lt's goisg through Weve better relatiene vdth Eng-lan- d Q Why is that? A England galns aad we gain Q How ia it in yor opinion that England and France vhich have great dollar Ioan are not reconstrueting as much or as fast as Vugoslavia who reeeived noth-ing from the United States? A THERE IS ANOTHEK SEC-IJE- T We ue everythtng the minute we get it We w"ork very wett we a#e every otmee of ma-teri- al evry nail—for the benefit ofalL Q Marahal Tito it is still a myatry to me how yoy have man-age- d yor rMonairoction It as-tonis- hea an American used to serapers and gradera btflldoters eranes tractors ateamrollers cement mineru to pee vrhat you have done almost without maehin-- 1 ery You have rebuilt more and more quickly than any European ' country that I have seen this summer—and I have travelled ali through Central Europe Hov did it happen? (In Yugoslavia bulld-ing- s bridges factories railroads seem to spring up almost ovei-nig- ht The buildings are of thick cement and double brick not jerry built or shoddy) A Our economic svstem is such that ve can make such progres In the Vest privato ovnership stopa auch progresa Here no one puts anything in hia private pocket Q If you dld get private loans and credJta eould that tend to stop your reconstruetion ? A (laughing) Of course not If we get cash or loans we would simply buy mora machines for the good of ali Q WILL YOU EXrLAIN to me in detail and concretely why you refused to participate in the Marshall Tlan? A You see that we were not wrong The Pariš Conference has como to no result vre said it could not The secret conference about the Iluhr now taking place in Eng-land is further proof that some-thin- g i wrong somewhere that somevvhere there's a lack of good-wi- ll that not evcry state can ex-pe- ct help—least of ali our country We have our Five Year Plan we havo built amazingly in these past two years ve can simply not per-m- it any obstruction I vill cite you an example: Aceording to the Mar-shall Plan every country must put its surplus into a common pot llut ve cannot do this: we already have agreements trade and economic agreements with many countries: Sveden Italy Uulgaria Hungarj Poland Komania and Czechoslova-ki- a We vouldn't be free to have these under the Marshall Plan We knev this so we deelin-e- d to go to Pariš Desides they did the who!e thlng without consulting us beforehand We vere Just told to come Ono doesn't do things like that Q I think Americans would be interested in knowing why it is so important for you a hitherto largelv agricultural countrj" to becomo industrialized? A It is very important We are a rich country Why should we export mlnerals for example? They belong to our country ve should use them for the benefit of our people We have many riches in our country: oil coal copper 2inc lead manganese We sould work these ourselves and benefit from them ourselves Why export cheap raw materials and buy back expensive finished pro-duet- s? Why should our peasants have to emigrate because thi country is poor —one and a half million have left home and spread over the entire vorld in order to make a better living than they could make here We have too little earth for our populatlon unless ve tili and vork it intensively Why should our peasants go away? Q I understand 500 immigrants have just arrived from Canada— Vugoslava coming back to their homeland? A Theee are "ecosomk immi-grant- a" (They are largely skilled labor and have brought a half mi-llion dollara' worth of toola with them) Q What about your polky re-garding D P's? A We vvant our people back of course Those vvho are not var criminals can vrork here peaceful-l- y Ve have amnestied ali ho veren't bloodstained criminals It is enemy propaganda to teli them that things are bad here and that they vvill be punished if they re-tu- rn This is not true And many have already returned and have seen that it vas untrue We need workers we have no unemploy-men- t here nor can ve ever bave any (Tito asked me why Amer-icans didn't come to work on the Vouth Railvay as practkally every other nationality had done) Q You have spoken much Marshal Tito of the lies you al-le- ge are told about you Do you think such alleged lies can con-tinue in the face of ali these things you have toM me wheh you feel refute them? A The lies can't continue long After awhile lies are denied by fact and we show the facts Vet some do remain and as I've said do damage Ve teli the facts and repeat them but sections of your prese are very powerful and are in the hands of people who vvant a&sstmmmmms&m Seljaci slavonskih sela dobrovoljno uključuju u obradu dijelove svojih pašnjaka Slavonska Orahovica — Na pod-ručju kotara Slavonska Orahovica koji ima CO sela i 23 MNO-- a pri-vode se kraju pripreme za pred-stojeću jesensku sjetvu Kotarska sjetvena komisija razradila je plan sjetve na mjesta dok Mjesni na-rodni odbori završavaju razrez na pojedine gospodare kojih ima 4C63 Pred vidjeno je da se u ovom kotaru zasije: pSenicom 41 posto raži i ječmom 5 posto parom zobi 11 posto krmnim stočnim biljem i industrijskim biljkama po 9 po-sto krumpirom i drugim povrćem 4 posto i s kukuruzom 21 posto obradivih površina Velečasni iz Nove Kapele osluškuje cvilenje Nova Kapela — Fino i ugladje- - no uho ima ovdašnji svećenik Josip GlavaJ Ne izbjegne njemu ni naj-manji Hum direktno bi čovjek re-kao da je muzički nadaren — pra-vi rtatfinvkn PrpvrA u na nri mier u krevetu i osluHcuJe Jutro je i narod ide s kolima na polje da t radi a točkovi nepodmazani — cvile "Sto bi to moglo biti — kakav je to cvileS?" pita se velečasni a onda nakon podugog razmišljanja zaključuje: "Nema ita — cvili narod" Ili prolazi kraj željezničke pru-ge Lokomotiva — rekao bi čovjek nova — a još Je nedavno ležala u starom gvoždju Izvukli je popra-vili — i sada vozi Ali kada stane — zastenje zaškripi "Kakav je to zvuk?' pomišlja velečasni "Ma i opet neki cvilež" I zaključuje: "Nema žta — cvili narod" I čuje on tako cvilenje sa svih strana — cvile strojevi u tvornica-ma cvile turbine u hidrocentrala-ma cvile vlakovi što već prolaze dovrSenlm dijelovima Omladinske pruge cvili vjetar kroz novograd-nje A Glavaš samo osluškuje pa primjećuje: "Nema šta — cvili narod" No jednog je dana čuo drug zvukove Nije cvilež — nego pjes-ma Omladinska priredba I to ga jo uzbunilo Eto već se tako pnu-či- o na cvilenje da se već i sam pretvorio u veliki cvilež a sada najednom pjesma I dugo je o to-me razmišljao zapeklo ga upravo ta odlučio zacviliti protiv toga j samoj propovijedi što je odlučio to je i učinio Iduće nedjelje kada se popeo na propovjedaonicu ucvi-ljenim glasom rekao je medju ostalim: "Sramota je to da omladina održava priredbe da se omladina veseli dok milijuni naroda — cvi-le" što ćemo — svatko sluša zvu-kove svojim uhom A veličasni Glavaš se toliko zacvilio da mu je već sve cvilež pa ucvilio i propo-vijed Samo što se malo rdjavo izrazio: ne cvile milijuni naroda ali je posve točno da ima takvih koji cvilo za milijunima koje više ne mogu otimati narodu these lies to be spread They print now a lie now a truth but some belicf clings to the lies and that damages ali—those vvho teli the lies as much as those who believe them But we have our democratk nation and vve'll vrin out Q Since there k so much talk of another var and since any spark can set it ablaze teli me once more uhat you think could be done to diasolve the hostile feelings between your country and mine? I ask agaln in your opin ion vhat could be done to have I better relations? A This does not depend on u but on the American governmen and on the American authorities We vvant to trade vvith America ve want good relations but vve consider vve should ran our ovvn countrj Our people vvant to run their own country vithout outside interference And do J'ou knovv hov vve čame to this desire? We reeeived many notes telling us that we must adhere to the Tito-Shubas- ic Agreement that vve must not form a nev Vugoslavia But vve vranted to found a new Vugoslavia we wanted to make our countrj modern and indus-trialized and able to support ali its people Q Then what are those author-ities that you say are unfriendly so afraid of ? A They are afraid that we wouW achieve exactly what e have now achieved They have nuite openly supperted our reac-tkma- rj elementa in order to pre-ve- nt us building our nw countrj But we are building it nevithe-les- s and w shall vrin We shall have a united and democratic peo-ple and we shall vvin Pitanju povećanja (Tanka na ra-čun pašnjaka posvećuje se puna pažnja Narod je primio ovu odlu-ku s odobravanjem Mještani sela Dolci Feričanci i Suha Mlaka još na proljeće ne čekajući direktive od kotara uzorali su od svojih pa-šnjaka 300 jutara gdje su proljet-ni usjevi izvanredno uspjeli Ove jeseni preorat će se jo5 500 jutara (pašnjaka To ne znači da su sela ostala bez pašnjaka Svako mjesto dobilo je potrebne površine za na-pasan- je stoke Medjutim znatno su povećane površine za proizvod-nju ansilirane stočne hrane koja je izvrsna za prehranu stoke preko zime Kotar Slavonska Orahovica ras-polaže sa 1G0 volovskih i konjskih sprega Pomanjkanje sprega osje-ća se samo u selima Gornjoj Piš-ta- ni i Suhoj Mlaki kojima će po-moći u oranju sela Crnac i Donja Pištana Osim toga stanica SPOM iz Našica ugovorila Je za jesensku sjetvu C00 jutara ali će se kontra-hiranj- e povećati na 1000 jutara Za potrebe gospodara osigurano Ne kod Pouzeća "Oranica" u Osi Jeku 30 vagona pšeničnog sjemena i tri vagona raži Polovica naru čene sjemenske robe već je na pu-tu Roba će se odmah po prispjeću razdijeliti gospodarima Najbolju evidenciju obradiva ze-mljišta proveli 6U MNO-- i u Do-kš- ić Lugu Darama Kutovima i Milanovcu gdje se plodno zemlji-šte slaže s katastarskim podacima U toku kampanja za pronalaženje utajena zemljišta Mještani sela Bankovaca otkrili su ovih dana 120 jutara zemljišta koje su utajili neki imućni seljaci U Slavonskoj Orahovici nedostaje preko 300 ju-tara a nije bolje ni u drugim seli-ma Nove propise prema kojima će proizvodjači moći predavati žit-nom fondu umjesto pšenice i druge žitarice raž i ječam proizvodjači su primili sa zadovoljstvom Raž u ovom kotaru osobito dobro uspije-va VATIKANSKI BUSINESS (Prenos sa strane 2) Gallarate na primjer ima devet tekstilnih industrija od tih su dvi-je u rukama "crnog plemstva" (Olcesse i Rivetti) a ostalih sedam vode nećaci pape ili nekog kardi nala Kad se sve to znade tada nije čudo da Vatikan putem milijun-skih zajmova prodire i u automo-bilsku industriju "Fiat" To je sa-mo jedan novi "sitni" business u velikom trgovačkim apetitima Vatikana Vatikan sve viJe uz pomoć De Gasperijeve vlade osvaja tržišta i grabi dividende On sve više drži u rukama ključne pozicije i uz buran pljesak onih preko Oceana čuva današnji režim koji za njega kon-kretno znači: banke industrije eksploatacije dividende bogatstva MALENI IM OCEANI Rim u rujnu Pošto su Atlantski i Tihi ocean koji okružuju SAD odviše malene vode za američku flotu to prema izjavi komandanta američkih sna-ga u Sredszemlju jedan dio ameri-čke flote kani i dalje ostati u tali-janskim vodama čak i poslije pot-pisivanja mirovnog ugovora s Nje-mačkom Ova izjava nije naročito iznena-dila g de Gasperija jer je on ovu za nj ugodnu vijest još odavna saznao iz prve ruke — u Washing-ton- u (Iz Kercmpuha) Svi nam dobro ~i OBJAV TORONTO ONT Ogranak Saveza Kanadskih Hr vata održavati će svoju redovitu sjednicu u nedjelju 19 oktobra u 2 sata poslije podne na 3SG Ontario St Moli se sve članove i članice da dodju na ovu sjednicu i da dovedu svoje prijatelje da ih začlanimo u naš Savez Naročito je potrebno da prisustvuju članovi odbora zu kampanju novog članstva i Novo-sti i da podnesu rezultate rada SJEDNICA IZVRŠNOG ODBORA U petak na večer u 8 sati odr-žavati će se sjednica Izvršnog od-bora u gore navedenim prostorija-ma Stoga je potrebno da članovi Izvršnog odbora našeg Saveza pri-sustvuju ovoj sjednici i da napra-vimo plan i sugestije za sjednicu u nedjelju Toronto Ont U subotu 18 listopada lokalno Vijeće K J S priredjuje oprosnu večer povratnicima treće grupe Zabava će se održavati na 36G On-tario St Početak u 8 sati na večer Potrebno je da se svi Jugoslave-ni odazovu ovoj priredbi i da se zajednički oprostimo sa našim dru-govima i drugaricama povratnici-ma treće grupe iz Toronta Mole se svi drugovi i drugarice koji imaju tikete na rasprodaji da ih donesu te večeri u dvoranu Toronto Ont Sve tri grupe "Tito" Kluba Rad-ničke progresivne partije održava-ju svoju zajedničku sjednicu u uto-rak 21 oktobra u 8 sati u večer Pošto imamo vrlo važnih pitanja za rješavati potrebno je da sve članstvo bude prisutno Kirkland Lake Ont Daje se do znanja našem naselju a roditeljima čija su djeca prije polazila školu hrvatskog je-zika da je jesenska obuka otpočela 10 oktobra u saveznim prostori-jama 40 Label Ave Apeliramo na roditelje da svoju djecu upišu i redovito šalju u školu tako da se nauče čitati pisati i dobro govo-riti svoj materinski jezik Za odbor škole J Tomac Kirkland Lake Ont Lokalno Vijeće Kanadskih Juž-nih Slavena priredjuje 19 oktobra u saveznim prostorijama 40 Label Ave oprostnu večer drugovima ko-ji polaze sa trećom grupom u do-movinu (U objavi nije navedeno u koje doba dana počinje priredba ured) Pozivaju se svi članovi kao i ostala braća Jugoslaveni da uve-ličaju ovu oprosnu priredbu TRAŽI SE Jure Kranjčević koji se nalazi oko deset godina na poslu u maj-nam- a u sjeverni Ontario i Quebec da se javi upravi Novosti radi pisma koje se za istoga nalazi kod na Pismo piše Kate Kranjčević po-s- ta Ličko Leće Lika F N R Jugoslavija Dodjite na vrijemel SVEČANA OPROSTNA VEČER U MONTREALU Vijeće Kanadskih Južnih Slavena priredjuje SVEČANU OPROSTNU VEČER U nedelju 26 oktobra Povratnicima treće grupe i posadi ladje "Radnik" Početak banketa u 7 sati na večer Ulaznica dva dolara po osobi Prcdprodaja u Montrealu Carpentier dvorana na 3560 St Lawrence Blvd Ovaj svečani sastanak osloviti će predstavnici F N R Jugoslavije predstavnici posade "Radnika" i predstavnici Vijeća došli! osobito " m ' i ib ii VVindsor Oni Klub "Tito" RPP održava svo-ju redovitu sjednicu u nedjelju 19 oktobra u 2 sata poslije podne u ruskoj dvorani 1220 Drouillard Ud Poziva se sve članstvo na sjednicu Windsor Ont A get-togeth- er of Canađlan-Vugosla- v youth of Windsor is be-ing held on Monday October 20th in the Czechoslovak Hali at 8 PM Emeric Simac Secretary of the Canadian South-Slavi- c Youth Fe-derati- on vvill be present as guest speaker We urge ali our youth to attend this important affair Mike Adams Toronto West Ogranak Saveza Kanadskih Hr-vata i odsjek 9C1 IICZ priredjuju oprosnu večer drugovima i druga-ricama svojim članovima koji sa trećom grupom odlaze u domo-vinu Priredba će biti 19 oktobra u 2 sata poslije podne u kući druga M Markušića na 134 Vine St Toronto Ont U ponedjeljak 20 listopada u 8 sati na večer lokalno Vijećo K J Slavena održati će icdovitu sjed-nici na kojoj treba da prlsustvujo cjelokupno članttvo radi novih oba-vjes- ti i budućeg rada St Catharincs Ont Odsjek 931 HDZ održavati ćo svoju redovitu sjednicu u nedjelju dne 19 oktobra na 247 St Paul St soba broj 18 Sjednica je vrlo važ-na pa je potrebno da sve članstvo prisustvuje Montreal One Od jek 739 IIBZ poziva svo svo-je članove na redovitu sjednicu koja se održava 19 oktobra a Ju-goslavenskom domu 3447 St Lau-re- nt St Početak u 2 sata poslije podne Pored naših odsječnih poslova saslušat ćemo izvještaj sa Sedme konvencije i učinit pripremo Kl naš budući rad Montreal Que Ogranci svih bratskih Saveza priredjuju čajanku oprosnu prired-bu drugovima i drugaricama koji odlaze u domovinu sa trećom gru-pom u subotu na večer 18 oktobra u Jugoslavenskom domu 3447 St Lavvrettc čisti prihod ide u fond svih triju naših novina Za dobru podvorbu i ostalo bri-ne se odbor Niagara Falte Ont Ogranak Saveza Kanadskih Hr-vata priredjuje kućnu zabavu u su-botu 19 oktobra u kući obitelji M Polica 1637 McLeod Ud Početak u 7 sati na večer Glavni govornik će biti drag I Pribanić glavni tajnik Savesn KJI čisti prihod od zabave ide u fond Novosti pa zato očekajerao da će nas posjetiti svi Jugoslaveni u mjestu i okolici New Toronto Ont Ogranak Saveza Kanadskih Hr-vata održava svoju redovitu sjedni-cu u subotu 18 oktobra u 8 sati na večer na 174-6t- h St Poito imamo raspravljati pita-nje iduće kampanje umoljavaju se svi članovi da budu prisutni S S Mario Oni Sjednica odsjeka 628 HBZ odr-žavati će se u nedjelju 19 oktsfera u 130 poslije podne na 342 Wel-lingt- on St W Na sjednici će se dati tromjesečno izvješće poslova-nja odsjeka a k tome se delegat Sedme konvencije dati svoje itve-sc- e pa je potrebno da sve članstvo bude prisutno JESTE LI OBNOVILI PRETPLATU ? |
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