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.%W - ' , ., "£ ч ".'A'A' J "'i "ill ,4 :r(1- - 'ftVi 't, , Г ДЧ. Ji i '(' 4ii7, ' ' "1 ,- - ' ' "' ' ® ® ® ' ' ui1"' ' ml Union of America Mw' w gp 1 1 E5 !!! S3 B EE C3 _ The Wall Street Journal in a recent issue had a story on the possible make up of the questionnaire which will be used for the 1980 census. And again it appears that it will be impossible to establish the true ethnic origins of minority groups such as the Croatians, Serbs, Slovaks, Slovenes, Bohemians, etc. Our Croatian Organizations have for years tried to have the U.S. Census Bureau include a question that would identify the number of Croatians in this country. This has never been established, although there have been estimates as high as 2 million people of Croatian descent in this country. In the early years of Croatian Migration to the United States, the majority of our people, coming from the former Austro-Hungaria- n provinces, were listed either as Austrians or in some cases as Hungarians and in some cases as Italians, and never were listed as Croatians. Of course passports were issued by the Austro-Hungaria- n government so they were listed as nationals of Austro-Hungar- y and this worked against the Croatians when the new Yugoslavia was. established, because quotas were being based on the country of origin and most of the quota for the Croatians went to Austria or to Hungary and the Croatians were thus always shortchanged. It appears that this situation will continue in the future because, from all indications, this question will not be asked in the census form that is being prepared for the 1980 census. The 1980 census will continue the long tradition of racial classification by asking people to designate themselves as "White", "Black or Negro", "American Indian", "Asian or Pacific Islander" or some equally non-identifyi- ng designation. According to the census officials, this type of question no longer satisfies the growing interest in the ethnic roots of Americans. Various groups, and among them the Croatians, are seeking mention on the census form as a specific ethnic designation. . Every ethnic category wishes to have a question in the form relating to their ethnic background and the census planners are now experimenting with a format for the ethnic questionnaire. A test questionnaire was sent out in Oakland, California last April asking people to identify themselves as Afro-America- n, Spanish, European except Spaniard, or other. The people checking the last three boxes were then invited to write in a specific origin thus avoiding a specific printed list of ethnic desig-nations. Our people, too, have petitioned the Federal government to .include a question on ethnic origin, but the Census Department is against listing the names of each nationality because that would enlarge the questionnaire to a great extent. They would, like to have just simply a question "Of what ethnic origin are you" and if they stick by that decision or opinion' then itwill be the same as it has been in the past, because when they put down ethnic origin most of our younger Arherican-bor- n generation will simply state that they are Americans, whichjstrue. So accurate enumeration of the number of Croatians in this country will remain a secret fore cr unless a specific question was asked in the questionnaire as to whether they are of Croatian, Slovak, Serbian, Italian, German or whatever nationality is in --question. Our ' people would like to have them ask „the question "Are you of Croatian descent" but it § Ш111111111111111П1111111П1№ШП1Н11И11111111111Н111111111111111111111111111111111111Ш appears now that this question will not be included, because to include the questions on Croatians would mean that they would have to add at least a hundred different nationalities in the census form and this would increase the size of the form and make it too un-wieldy and bulky. According to what some members of Congress believe, there is very little interest in the question except by a few nationalistically inclined ethnic groups. It is unfortunate that such a question could not have been asked when the 1890, 1900 and 1910 censuses were taken, because then it would have been possible to establish the number of Croatians who had entered this country from the old Austro-Hungaria- n provinces which are today a part of Yugoslavia. The best estimate of the number of Croatians now residing in this country was contained in a book authored by the late Vece Holjevac, a former Mayor of Zagreb. This book was published in 1967 and went into a great amount of detail as to the number of Croatians that left that country for the United States in the years from about 1887 to 1915 when immigration from the former Austro-Hungaria- n lands was at its highest. And according to these figures, there were approximately 557,000 Croatians who had come to this country from Croatia. es NaSi nija, svije- - I ka. u sa tko smo koja ali ono Sto je nisu nego bili se. Sva The late Josip former National President of the old National Croatian Society, took census in the 1900 and he tried to establish the number of residing in this by to all of the old NCS lodges or Croatian people in different communities. At that time he came up with total of 112,995 Croatians living in this As indicated, the late Marohnic wrote to every Croatian located in every state and community in the United States he belived that Croatians lived. His figure for Pennsylvania in the 1900 census which was in book form in 1902 shows that there were approximately 38,000 Croatians living in Pennsylvania in the year 1900. This was the largest number for any state. The second Croatian was located in of Illinois, to this census, where ap-proximately 12,000 Croatians lived. And strangely enough, was third with 10,000 Croatians residing there. At the time of the 1900 census by Marohnic, there were approximately 250 Croatians living in Alabama and another 200 living in Alaska. There were even 400 listed for Arkansas territory and Georgia had 50 Croatians therein while Florida came up with 200. Maryland and Maine had 50 Croatians Jlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllilllillllliillllllllllllllllllllllllllilllllllllllll Argentini lOO-godisnj-ica organiziranog drustuenog rada i Buenos "AGliarsensiak'"objavio ie clanak zknruagcua ove proslsavvoejimi istodobno Talijani, 1 100-godiSnj- ici Argentinskom Narodu, u kojem ranog drustvenog rada doseljenlka sr"o ' ml uklju6eni, predo6i na§ iz Jugoslav!je, kojega ovdje preno- - organ izovani rad u toku od 100 simo za nase oitaoce: godina. Робат od ovog mjeseca travnja Kroz vrjleme imamo naSu i (aprila), ulazimo u stotu godiSnjicu D°9atu povijest u Argentini. Vellka naseg organ izovanog rada u Argen- - ve6ina kapetana i pilota trgovacke i tinNi.aSi rodoljubi preSasnlci, Hrva- - vlci Ргоб,°9Argsetontlijneecau.bdirluigoj ponlaoS-i-ti, Slovene!, Srbi i Cmogorci, pri- - 'iuKd'- - Ш DadniciAustro-UaarskeMonarhii- A Uudi poceli nasel avati da jedni u tudem tu. iseljeni- - da svijetu i osnuju novinu usljed mogla da dugo nikako DruStva djelo- - a Croatians country writing a country. the residing each while the District of the capitol of the United States, had but 25 Croatians residing therein. The state of New York had 4,000 while the state of Ohio had 6,000 Croatians living the confines of those states, and West Virginia and had 2,000 each. There were even 25 Croatians listed as living in the Hawaii territory at the time. It must that the peak of Croatian to this country did not reach its height until about 1907 and 1908. The 1980 census will the 20th federal census conducted by our government since the establishment of the republic, and for the first time in history most of the will be mailed out to the citizens who will then fill them out of that would otherwise to census visiting to get the This year there will a number of touchy questions that may asked of the U.S. citizens, that is, if present plans of the census bureau realized. For example, there will be the really touching on ethnic background and then goes on to say that everyone will asked the amount of their annual income and this, too, may become a very touchy question. There will also be a question of the status of couples who live together but without being married. And there will other questions in a similar vein which may arouse the of the U. S. citizens to the extend that they may to answer some of the questions in the questionnaire. The" final form of the questionnaire, of course, has not been established as yet, but this is the direction in which we are headed and it seems that we Croatians are again doomed to insofar as the total number of people now living in this is concerned. ("Zajedni6ar", January 11, 1978) List (El iz 6lanovima a na smo mi, 1 t0 su su U Caku uzgajanju smo mi bili najprvi i je koloni-j- a danas a poslije nas dolaze Bugari i ostale strane Na jugu provincije Buenos Aire-s- a, kao pr. u kamenolomima u Tandilu i okolici, do 1926. na§i ljudi bili u ogromnoj ve6ini, pred svima ostalima, mogu da s gotovo svl iz Slovenskog Pata9°nJu u ono vrljeme kada ponos na svoje porljeklo, na pie- - 1 Primorja, Istre, Hrvatskog Primor-- cje,a dana§nja Patagonija nije meniti i poSteni rad svojih o6eva, 1 ja, Dalmacije Crnogorskog Pri- - lma,a vjSe od 200 biJe,in Uud- - dje'dova pradjedova u Argentini i 1 moria м tnkn 1Д77 ллН1ПО ™ Medu prvim doselienicima da istieu visoko. primjeru drugih IseljenlCkih kolo- - na,azl11 ,rci. Skoti, Danci j Паб1 Dal- - Zbog svog Cestitog i poStenog osjetiSe potrebu se ujedlne i organizuju uzajamnu pripo-mo- c, drugima 1 he U ra, na dan 14. a i Ш Sto sad dru je u Na da pri s od 100 na i I nasin s Sto smo, I nije zivi i je nam o radhim koji da ih se krsti kao Sto i riasa svom year where state within be be money go takers be are it be be wrath refuse our na na§a i na su i NaSi i i su se to za be sntiiazuaitiiui.Spaincjio4lcindi &iuje u puuen raaa, zDognavSjierlnjuodsitisusvvoisjoojkoncoivjeo-j- I imamo cijeli sjever njeni u svim druStvenim slojevima Provincije Buenos Aires i jug Santa Poslije niza i naPucen zemljoradnicima u ovom znaku ulazimo u stotu s travnja (aprila) na Prvom redu Talljanima u godiSnjicu naseg organizovanog 1878. godine ustanovljeno jeono na§im Jugoslavenima i rada u Argentini; дајеб uvijek imamo: Jugoslavensko P°orncima. Ijubav prema nasoj novoj Stvo uzajamne pripomoci, koje uz9aJanju vinogradarstva u Argentini, a tome nikada ne toku godina uspjeSno djeio- - Mendozi su opet prvom mjestu zaboravimo staru. vaionacasi ponos ...Istodobno osnivanjem Dru-Stv- a, pokazu cijelom "Iskra Slavjanske pomanjkanja sposobnih godina, vrljeme prezivjela ostavi-l- a dragocjeno svjedofianst-v- o naSIm ijudima onog vremena, dozvo-Ijava- li "Austro-Ugari-m- a" Slavenima, su osjebali u Marohnlc, prominent published largest population according California, ap-proximately mornarice Columbia, remembered migration questionnaires information. question anonymity country Vecero) rastumacl drugom posvecen organizi- - pamuka najveda, doma6im stranima. potomci osjecaju pomorci Talijani. domovini, dandanas Argentine. sastanaka dogovo- - drugom njihovim domovini slobode" novfianih sred-sta- va kadrova, Washington house-to-hous- e kolo-nij- e. TRAVEL SERVICE 562 KING STREET, EAST P.O. BOX 2216 KITCHENER, ONTARIO CANADA Complete Travel Service CHARTERS - GROUPS - INDIVIDUALS Phone (519) 743-026- 9 (519) 743-026- 0 VASA ARDELEAN After Hours (519) 886-268- 5
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Title | Nase Novine, March 29, 1978 |
Language | sr; hr |
Subject | Yugoslavia -- Newspapers; Newspapers -- Yugoslavia; Yugoslavian Canadians Newspapers |
Date | 1978-02-01 |
Type | application/pdf |
Format | text |
Rights | Licenced under section 77(1) of the Copyright Act. For detailed information visit: http://www.connectingcanadians.org/en/content/copyright |
Identifier | nanod2000054 |
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Title | 000089 |
OCR text | .%W - ' , ., "£ ч ".'A'A' J "'i "ill ,4 :r(1- - 'ftVi 't, , Г ДЧ. Ji i '(' 4ii7, ' ' "1 ,- - ' ' "' ' ® ® ® ' ' ui1"' ' ml Union of America Mw' w gp 1 1 E5 !!! S3 B EE C3 _ The Wall Street Journal in a recent issue had a story on the possible make up of the questionnaire which will be used for the 1980 census. And again it appears that it will be impossible to establish the true ethnic origins of minority groups such as the Croatians, Serbs, Slovaks, Slovenes, Bohemians, etc. Our Croatian Organizations have for years tried to have the U.S. Census Bureau include a question that would identify the number of Croatians in this country. This has never been established, although there have been estimates as high as 2 million people of Croatian descent in this country. In the early years of Croatian Migration to the United States, the majority of our people, coming from the former Austro-Hungaria- n provinces, were listed either as Austrians or in some cases as Hungarians and in some cases as Italians, and never were listed as Croatians. Of course passports were issued by the Austro-Hungaria- n government so they were listed as nationals of Austro-Hungar- y and this worked against the Croatians when the new Yugoslavia was. established, because quotas were being based on the country of origin and most of the quota for the Croatians went to Austria or to Hungary and the Croatians were thus always shortchanged. It appears that this situation will continue in the future because, from all indications, this question will not be asked in the census form that is being prepared for the 1980 census. The 1980 census will continue the long tradition of racial classification by asking people to designate themselves as "White", "Black or Negro", "American Indian", "Asian or Pacific Islander" or some equally non-identifyi- ng designation. According to the census officials, this type of question no longer satisfies the growing interest in the ethnic roots of Americans. Various groups, and among them the Croatians, are seeking mention on the census form as a specific ethnic designation. . Every ethnic category wishes to have a question in the form relating to their ethnic background and the census planners are now experimenting with a format for the ethnic questionnaire. A test questionnaire was sent out in Oakland, California last April asking people to identify themselves as Afro-America- n, Spanish, European except Spaniard, or other. The people checking the last three boxes were then invited to write in a specific origin thus avoiding a specific printed list of ethnic desig-nations. Our people, too, have petitioned the Federal government to .include a question on ethnic origin, but the Census Department is against listing the names of each nationality because that would enlarge the questionnaire to a great extent. They would, like to have just simply a question "Of what ethnic origin are you" and if they stick by that decision or opinion' then itwill be the same as it has been in the past, because when they put down ethnic origin most of our younger Arherican-bor- n generation will simply state that they are Americans, whichjstrue. So accurate enumeration of the number of Croatians in this country will remain a secret fore cr unless a specific question was asked in the questionnaire as to whether they are of Croatian, Slovak, Serbian, Italian, German or whatever nationality is in --question. Our ' people would like to have them ask „the question "Are you of Croatian descent" but it § Ш111111111111111П1111111П1№ШП1Н11И11111111111Н111111111111111111111111111111111111Ш appears now that this question will not be included, because to include the questions on Croatians would mean that they would have to add at least a hundred different nationalities in the census form and this would increase the size of the form and make it too un-wieldy and bulky. According to what some members of Congress believe, there is very little interest in the question except by a few nationalistically inclined ethnic groups. It is unfortunate that such a question could not have been asked when the 1890, 1900 and 1910 censuses were taken, because then it would have been possible to establish the number of Croatians who had entered this country from the old Austro-Hungaria- n provinces which are today a part of Yugoslavia. The best estimate of the number of Croatians now residing in this country was contained in a book authored by the late Vece Holjevac, a former Mayor of Zagreb. This book was published in 1967 and went into a great amount of detail as to the number of Croatians that left that country for the United States in the years from about 1887 to 1915 when immigration from the former Austro-Hungaria- n lands was at its highest. And according to these figures, there were approximately 557,000 Croatians who had come to this country from Croatia. es NaSi nija, svije- - I ka. u sa tko smo koja ali ono Sto je nisu nego bili se. Sva The late Josip former National President of the old National Croatian Society, took census in the 1900 and he tried to establish the number of residing in this by to all of the old NCS lodges or Croatian people in different communities. At that time he came up with total of 112,995 Croatians living in this As indicated, the late Marohnic wrote to every Croatian located in every state and community in the United States he belived that Croatians lived. His figure for Pennsylvania in the 1900 census which was in book form in 1902 shows that there were approximately 38,000 Croatians living in Pennsylvania in the year 1900. This was the largest number for any state. The second Croatian was located in of Illinois, to this census, where ap-proximately 12,000 Croatians lived. And strangely enough, was third with 10,000 Croatians residing there. At the time of the 1900 census by Marohnic, there were approximately 250 Croatians living in Alabama and another 200 living in Alaska. There were even 400 listed for Arkansas territory and Georgia had 50 Croatians therein while Florida came up with 200. Maryland and Maine had 50 Croatians Jlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllilllillllliillllllllllllllllllllllllllilllllllllllll Argentini lOO-godisnj-ica organiziranog drustuenog rada i Buenos "AGliarsensiak'"objavio ie clanak zknruagcua ove proslsavvoejimi istodobno Talijani, 1 100-godiSnj- ici Argentinskom Narodu, u kojem ranog drustvenog rada doseljenlka sr"o ' ml uklju6eni, predo6i na§ iz Jugoslav!je, kojega ovdje preno- - organ izovani rad u toku od 100 simo za nase oitaoce: godina. Робат od ovog mjeseca travnja Kroz vrjleme imamo naSu i (aprila), ulazimo u stotu godiSnjicu D°9atu povijest u Argentini. Vellka naseg organ izovanog rada u Argen- - ve6ina kapetana i pilota trgovacke i tinNi.aSi rodoljubi preSasnlci, Hrva- - vlci Ргоб,°9Argsetontlijneecau.bdirluigoj ponlaoS-i-ti, Slovene!, Srbi i Cmogorci, pri- - 'iuKd'- - Ш DadniciAustro-UaarskeMonarhii- A Uudi poceli nasel avati da jedni u tudem tu. iseljeni- - da svijetu i osnuju novinu usljed mogla da dugo nikako DruStva djelo- - a Croatians country writing a country. the residing each while the District of the capitol of the United States, had but 25 Croatians residing therein. The state of New York had 4,000 while the state of Ohio had 6,000 Croatians living the confines of those states, and West Virginia and had 2,000 each. There were even 25 Croatians listed as living in the Hawaii territory at the time. It must that the peak of Croatian to this country did not reach its height until about 1907 and 1908. The 1980 census will the 20th federal census conducted by our government since the establishment of the republic, and for the first time in history most of the will be mailed out to the citizens who will then fill them out of that would otherwise to census visiting to get the This year there will a number of touchy questions that may asked of the U.S. citizens, that is, if present plans of the census bureau realized. For example, there will be the really touching on ethnic background and then goes on to say that everyone will asked the amount of their annual income and this, too, may become a very touchy question. There will also be a question of the status of couples who live together but without being married. And there will other questions in a similar vein which may arouse the of the U. S. citizens to the extend that they may to answer some of the questions in the questionnaire. The" final form of the questionnaire, of course, has not been established as yet, but this is the direction in which we are headed and it seems that we Croatians are again doomed to insofar as the total number of people now living in this is concerned. ("Zajedni6ar", January 11, 1978) List (El iz 6lanovima a na smo mi, 1 t0 su su U Caku uzgajanju smo mi bili najprvi i je koloni-j- a danas a poslije nas dolaze Bugari i ostale strane Na jugu provincije Buenos Aire-s- a, kao pr. u kamenolomima u Tandilu i okolici, do 1926. na§i ljudi bili u ogromnoj ve6ini, pred svima ostalima, mogu da s gotovo svl iz Slovenskog Pata9°nJu u ono vrljeme kada ponos na svoje porljeklo, na pie- - 1 Primorja, Istre, Hrvatskog Primor-- cje,a dana§nja Patagonija nije meniti i poSteni rad svojih o6eva, 1 ja, Dalmacije Crnogorskog Pri- - lma,a vjSe od 200 biJe,in Uud- - dje'dova pradjedova u Argentini i 1 moria м tnkn 1Д77 ллН1ПО ™ Medu prvim doselienicima da istieu visoko. primjeru drugih IseljenlCkih kolo- - na,azl11 ,rci. Skoti, Danci j Паб1 Dal- - Zbog svog Cestitog i poStenog osjetiSe potrebu se ujedlne i organizuju uzajamnu pripo-mo- c, drugima 1 he U ra, na dan 14. a i Ш Sto sad dru je u Na da pri s od 100 na i I nasin s Sto smo, I nije zivi i je nam o radhim koji da ih se krsti kao Sto i riasa svom year where state within be be money go takers be are it be be wrath refuse our na na§a i na su i NaSi i i su se to za be sntiiazuaitiiui.Spaincjio4lcindi &iuje u puuen raaa, zDognavSjierlnjuodsitisusvvoisjoojkoncoivjeo-j- I imamo cijeli sjever njeni u svim druStvenim slojevima Provincije Buenos Aires i jug Santa Poslije niza i naPucen zemljoradnicima u ovom znaku ulazimo u stotu s travnja (aprila) na Prvom redu Talljanima u godiSnjicu naseg organizovanog 1878. godine ustanovljeno jeono na§im Jugoslavenima i rada u Argentini; дајеб uvijek imamo: Jugoslavensko P°orncima. Ijubav prema nasoj novoj Stvo uzajamne pripomoci, koje uz9aJanju vinogradarstva u Argentini, a tome nikada ne toku godina uspjeSno djeio- - Mendozi su opet prvom mjestu zaboravimo staru. vaionacasi ponos ...Istodobno osnivanjem Dru-Stv- a, pokazu cijelom "Iskra Slavjanske pomanjkanja sposobnih godina, vrljeme prezivjela ostavi-l- a dragocjeno svjedofianst-v- o naSIm ijudima onog vremena, dozvo-Ijava- li "Austro-Ugari-m- a" Slavenima, su osjebali u Marohnlc, prominent published largest population according California, ap-proximately mornarice Columbia, remembered migration questionnaires information. question anonymity country Vecero) rastumacl drugom posvecen organizi- - pamuka najveda, doma6im stranima. potomci osjecaju pomorci Talijani. domovini, dandanas Argentine. sastanaka dogovo- - drugom njihovim domovini slobode" novfianih sred-sta- va kadrova, Washington house-to-hous- e kolo-nij- e. TRAVEL SERVICE 562 KING STREET, EAST P.O. BOX 2216 KITCHENER, ONTARIO CANADA Complete Travel Service CHARTERS - GROUPS - INDIVIDUALS Phone (519) 743-026- 9 (519) 743-026- 0 VASA ARDELEAN After Hours (519) 886-268- 5 |
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